John Mousetrane

as in the mouse is like Beethoven, not Beethoven being a jazz player

Like a collective collection, that actually sounds really cool.

Right? I think there's some collab on here but no way to easily showcase it in the feeds. Like we can share each others work in our descriptions if we wanted to and tag other users for group inspired works but outside of community challenges we can't create collections with multiple users like one can do with some photo collections on Facebook etc. That would be a cool feature. Alternatively people can share images in the comments but those get over-run with a lot of "aw cute!" or "wow!" etc rather than discussions so not always a good platform for discussion that others take the time to look through.

I agree, it would be a great feature. I have an artist friend who has worked on a collective project with other artists. One person started the painting, and it got snail mailed to each artist to add their part. It would definitely be cool to have a collective collection we could pass to each other until its complete within the community here.

Yes! People can do evolve chains and I've joined a couple before as you can get "highly evolved" badge which was easier I think when NC started out with fewer users so collabs were easier to do. Get 5+ ppl in a chatroom, set up, arrange which order to evolve and if 5+ evolve each image within an hour, they get the badge! I have several examples in my open prompts collection as they had to be open prompt to be evolved. It was quite chaotic when some of us have closed as default to remember to edit as well before sharing so can require a bit of organisation to do. This started out as a creepy castle!

Thats really cool. I am still new and learning the things I can do. I really appreciate you giving me such valuable info. These images to know what they started as is really cool to see where they ended. WOW.

Evolving works best in Stable Diffusion models it seems. I think it can be done with flux but in flux schnell the results tend to be direct copies or totally different if you move from 50% - 70% but you can use the "shape" of a start image or colour even, not just subject to create something in SD. There's a lot of experimentation possible but on the other hand results and prompt tweaking are a lot more complicated with SD though negative prompts can help you avoid things. But the prompt weights etc all need practice to work out how to do so and otherwise it's easy to end up with a lot of 7 limbed animals etc. You can of course use uploaded start images but then they are not eligible for any official daily challenge and even any pro image you created on here or other person's creation as a start image will render it ineligible, even if you evolved 20 times! For community challenges that allow uploads or just for your own creations it does work though. That's what Loras are based on too

Thank you for all this information. I am truly grateful.

I've put various experiments with different ideas, models, simple prompts, funny stuff and "borrowed" prompts all in once collection because I do keep most of mine hidden so they are unique but I know many creators keep theirs all open. A little "practice" and "research" each day helps to work it all out but it IS a lot now since there's so many different models based on different types of image prompting now available and NC was originally set up to work with stable diffusion style prompting so it can be confusing. Presets can be a hindrance in some models too, and prompt word order is more important in SD models than in Dall-E3 or Flux. I've barely touched Imagen or Ideogram. Ideogram is free on their own site and Imagen I just haven't even got round to "learning". I admit I prefer Dall-E3 now and use flux schnell for DCs because it's "cheap" and much nicer to me than DreamshaperXL Lightning etc. Have fun! x ahttps://creator.nightcafe.studio/collection/fjPDVCbsK6wAiReTX8Kd

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Thank you so much. It has been a pleasure learning from you so far, and I hope to learn more from you and other creators as I go!

Oh wait, no, a biplane! This one was the castle.

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